In Search of Meaning

January 19, 2009

The day I became a rebel against God

So, here’s this story. In the period between 1990 and 1991 I spent nine months in Australia, learning about human psychology and getting trained as a psychotherapist. During that time yoga and yogic meditation was my method of personal growth, and it was a big thing in my life. At the same time an acquaintance of mine from my home town was in New Zealand, staying with a rather radical Christian community. And so we were exchanging letters back and forth, about what was going on in our lives etc. Yes, this was the pre-internet era, good old pencils were still in use back then. But we did have electricity already… ;-)

Anyway, in one of the letters I mentioned my yoga practice and this information sort of freaked him out, as it seems. Soon I got a really looooong letter from him, warning me about this non-Godly practice of mine. He told me that God Almighty was really unhappy with people doing yoga, Zen, Buddhism, actually anything but the only right spiritual practice (which was, by sheer coincidence, the one he was using). He informed me that all the other spiritual practices, philosophies and religions were the work of Devil and that with them God was testing our faith. He warned me that God always severely punishes every soul that dares to follow other practices. This was supposed to be a sign of his divine love for us (frankly, I really struggled with this one). At the end he told me I should really be careful about my choices, choose God’s way and save my soul, otherwise I was going to be doomed forever.

This was some heavy stuff to read, as you can imagine.

But, since at that time I was discovering amazing things about the human mind, I knew that the mind was a very tricky matter and utterly blurring our perception of ourselves, others and life. Therefore I knew that I actually did not know anything at all, so I decided to not throw away anything as crap, but to ponder it, take it as a possibility and see how it influenced my life.

So for a couple of days or so I was actually trying to open my mind up to the possibility that the universe actually was the way my acquaintance was describing – ruled by a merciless God, who was willing to tolerate only perfect followers, and throwing everybody with any sort of a free thinking mind into an eternal fire. Forever. Out of love!

Now, during this time I was being trained as a psychotherapist, remember?, and so the more I thought about this universal possibility, the more I thought that this guy, I mean God, could use some help. Some psychotherapy. You know, to learn to accept and respect diversity, to learn to respect other individuals, to not behave so aggressively, to learn to express love in a way that would be acceptable to receivers as well, to deflate his Ego a bit…

But there was also something else that became very clear to me, a strong feeling from within, connected to my core values, right from the backbone of my soul, of myself. A feeling that was far more alive than any sort of fears could ever be.

You see, it became totally clear to me that I would rather burn in hell than obey such a narcissistic, aggressive, brutal, manipulative, non-respectful, full of hatred, non-empathetic, cruel control freak. Not only that, I felt I was ready to fight this monster because this was not the universe I would want to support.

It was a liberating feeling. I did not care about anything, I felt I regained my identity and I was happy, peaceful, loving. And just to make sure this was clear to anybody who might had been witnessing, while standing in the meadow I turned my face toward the sky (don’t know why, it just somehow felt as the right direction) and said it all out loud. That I did not approve of this tyranny and that I was going to rebel against it. Forever.

So, my friends, I guess I am doomed.

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16 Comments »

  1. It is people like that who give God a bad name… God created us differently, didn’t he?

    Comment by thatdudeyouknow — January 20, 2009 @ 7:04 am

  2. I got cut off by a friend of over 30 years… because I wasn’t “Christian” enough and Im gonna burn in hell…. and that broke my heart..

    In the end… I figure.. God has a path for her that she needs to walk. Our journey together has ended. Sad huh?

    Comment by Amber — January 20, 2009 @ 7:28 am

  3. You made me think now… in order to use theirs and mine logic, let’s start with the axiom that everything that’s in the Bible is true. From the Bible we can clearly see that in that case:
    -Good people who believe in Jesus will definitelly spend eternity with him in heaven (which is not up in the sky, it’s here on earth, God will bring heaven to earth, we’re not flying away, but that’s another matter).
    -Evil people who refuse to believe in Jesus will go to some eternal fire place
    -You can’t be saved by deeds, only by faith
    -Faith is worth nothing without deeds

    Christians have been taking these axioms, and automatically assumed that “evil” is anyone who doesn’t believe, because you must be saved by faith. I’m not sure this is the correct conclusion. The Bible is very vague about good people who doesn’t believe
    (but there is one passage about evil people who believe – “On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness” Matthew 7:22-23, ESV)

    So for me I prefer to believe to “be on the safe side”. But I am not sure at all that good people who don’t believe will definitelly go to hell. I think it’s possible that they may either be saved by faith in God after their death or maybe that they are not “saved” and not “going to heaven”, but who says hell is the only alternative to heaven? I can’t find a passage like that in the Bible.

    On the other hand, Jesus was very clear that we are to minister and share our faith with others and “make others disciples” and share the good news of salvation. Pretty much like the three lepperds who found the enemy camp empty and filled with food and water while the rest of the city’s population were starving in the city thinking they were still being under siege. But I think the emphasis should be on helping people go to heaven, not help them get out of hell.

    I’m not sure, I need to ponder on this a bit more. My conclusions should not lead to actions that diminishes Jesus commandement of missionarying, but on the other hand it must be aligned with my belief that God loves us, is just, and created us different on purpose.

    It’s a tricky paradox if you go too deep… sometimes I prefer just to let go and say “God knows”. Because his thoughts and logic are on a total different level than ours.

    Comment by thatdudeyouknow — January 20, 2009 @ 1:40 pm

  4. I’ve had a very similar back and forth as you described. What it comes down to, for me, is the blatant hypocrisy that I see exercised in the name of the ‘right’ faith. The clear inconsistencies in religious texts. My sneaking suspicion that even if the gospels are the exact word of God, even if they made it through the centuries intact, that the Catholic church has withheld some of the gospels anyway.

    The fact that ‘faith’ is ever a justification for murdering millions of people.

    I know I’ve connected with something greater than myself and am daily inspired by the power of the human heart. Love and integrity are my highest ideals are they seem wholly incompatible with most religious doctrine.

    Besides. I just can’t trust ‘revelations’ that are almost always given to men which for the most part tell them what they already want to hear.

    Comment by Hayden Tompkins — January 20, 2009 @ 11:04 pm

  5. Amber – yes indeed, it is really sad. Damn sad! But let’s see it from the positive side – you and me are going to be there together, it will be nicely warm, and we’ll sit together, hang out, talk, share… That’s not the worst thing, is it?

    Dude – frankly, I cannot connect with the axiom that everything that’s in Bible is true. But I don’t mind if other people do… Anyway, I do believe it is all about evaluating others – judging whether they are worthy or not, good enough or not, close to the truth or not. Whether they deserve or not. I believe the problem lies in positioning others somewhere on that scale, as being less worthy or not enough… or too…whatever… It is this aggressive mind and aggressive language. I tried to explain this thoughts, from another angle, here: http://robertkrzisnik.wordpress.com/2008/10/19/ubuntu-%E2%80%93-nobody-is-ever-outside/ . So, to my mind, it is not about what says this script and what is written in that book, about who is right and who is wrong; I believe it is about the respect of diversity and quieting this ever-evaluative mind of ours.

    Hayden – my thoughts exactly, I can resonate so well with what you are saying. And, yes, it is all so biased in a way that supports this men’s world, isn’t it. Disgusting!

    Comment by Robert — January 21, 2009 @ 7:09 pm

  6. I suppose I am doomed as well. My own higher power recognizes all faiths, all people, and all ethnicities. Even people who don’t have faith–those who are lost or those who never wsant a way to be found because to me, true spirituality lies in the essence of one’s soul and what actions a person chooses to illustrate the essence of their soul. If a person is profoundly good–that person would not be deserted by my God–because no one who is profoundly good could be punished in such a way.

    Melinda

    Comment by Melinda — January 21, 2009 @ 8:05 pm

  7. Melinda – hey, this is great, we are going to be a party down there, it is going to be cosy and fun… ;-)
    On the serious tone; yes, I agree completely with what you are saying. I cannot comprehend that a loving and good entity would evaluate, demand and punish.

    Comment by Robert — January 22, 2009 @ 8:41 pm

  8. Ah a man after my own heart, isn’t it all so very sad?

    Comment by SanityFound — January 22, 2009 @ 11:30 pm

  9. I like the image of you telling this to the heavens.

    There’s a great section in the book Catch-22 where Yosarian is talking to a girlfriend about what a bungler the God he doesn’t believe in is (this is in the context of war, of course) and she gets very upset. The God she doesn’t believe in is kindly and merciful, etc. etc. My retelling doesn’t exactly do it justice, but I hope the humor comes through.

    I, too, am doomed.

    Comment by Jennifer — January 26, 2009 @ 2:54 pm

  10. The last pope said that the biggest threat to Christianity was Buddhism. It would seem that people are looking for some enlightenment that may help them to live there lives in the here and now.

    If one gets away from the deity thing with religions and has a look at some of their underlying philosophies then I’d say there is some wisdom there.

    It just goes to show how fragile some people’s “faith” is when they don’t want see the difference between philosophy and belief in imaginary beings with omnipotent powers. Doing yoga is hardly a religious practice in it’s own right, although some people might claim it is.

    No Robert, you aren’t going to burn in hell and I’ll give you two reasons why.

    1) There is no such thing as hell
    2) If there is a god (in the Christian sense) I can’t believe that a so called compassionate god (of the new testament) full of love and forgiveness would not forgive one of his creations that was made in his own image for exercising their god like powers of reason and scepticism.

    Comment by razzbuffnik — January 28, 2009 @ 2:46 pm

  11. use your negativity to rebel from it and become positive…

    Comment by UTP — January 30, 2009 @ 10:47 pm

  12. All comments here were about the attitude towards God and religion. For me, I share very much Robert’s view, so this was not the most thought-provoking aspect of the article. However what stroke me and really made me think over and over again since I read it, was this sentence: “I decided to not throw away anything as crap, but to ponder it, take it as a possibility and see how it influenced my life.”
    This ability to not just discard something that’s not in line with your view and/or disturbing, but on the contrary to take it into account and explore it is really inspiring to me and made me think of my attitude to different views.
    Thank you for that

    Comment by Ludo et Anne-Claire — February 2, 2009 @ 4:31 pm

  13. Sanitiy – yes, it is indeed…

    Jennifer – hm, I forgot that passage. Guess I will need to re-read the book. And, hey, it is going to be really fun – me and so many ladies. In such a HOT place!

    Razz – of course, these differences are rather clear, yet completely blurred to some. No hell? What I you talking about. I was just getting really excited about spending time with all these ladies down there…

    UTP – not sure I understand what you mean…

    ACC – this was a good moment I had down there. It is not all that common, unfortunately… ;-)

    Comment by Robert — February 2, 2009 @ 5:19 pm

  14. (found you while exploring the blogs on the sidebar of Jennifer @ Writing to Survive)

    I have a foot in each of the three major religions of the book… always on the outside looking in, I felt that there was a lot of hypocrisy, of willful blindness, of not wanting to think for themselves. Oh, and a fervent belief that theirs was the only “correct” path. Ummm… okayyyy… I am exploring a specific meditative yoga that embraces the spirit of all religions but goes beyond them. That makes me a heathen unbelieving apostate in the eyes of the religion I was born into. So I have to be quiet about my questioning thoughts. Fun.

    Comment by ~willow~ — February 3, 2009 @ 5:14 am

  15. Robert–I’ve been reading your blog for a while, and I just put a link to it on my blog list. What I really like about your blog is the way you strive to capture and reflect on the really precious and ineffable moments in life. I especially liked this post because I was raised within a religion that made little sense to me, and I found that I needed a totally different concept of spirituality. It was really hard and stressful to break with my family’s traditions and learn to trust myself.

    I just started blogging last month, so I don’t have many readers yet. I’ve been writing about some of the same topics as you, like relationships and personal development, so that’s why I decided to add your site to my list. Also, I see that we’re almost exactly the same age (I was born in January of 1966). Clarissa

    Comment by Clarissa Alverson — February 7, 2009 @ 9:40 pm

  16. Willow – yeah, Jennifer is a connecting point – I also got in contact with some wonderful people through her blogroll. Mhm, I can so much connect to what you are saying… Thanks. And welcome.

    Clarissa – it is a honour to learn people out there follow my writings. I have already added your blog to my Google Reader and it will be a pleasure to go through your post…

    Comment by Robert — February 8, 2009 @ 4:22 pm


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